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Secunia New Mailing List Tackles Censorship In Security Advisories

A Danish security company, angry over what it perceives as censorship on several popular mailing lists, is launching "a revolution to remove SecurityFocus and CERT from power. . .. A Danish security company, angry over what it perceives as censorship on several popular mailing lists, is launching "a revolution to remove SecurityFocus and CERT from power ." At present, the revolution consists of a new mailing list that will aggregate vulnerability advisories and other security-related reports from a variety of sources. Employees of Secunia Ltd. will take advisories from these sources, research and verify them and then submit them to the new list. The list, known as the Secunia Security Advisories List, is designed to compete with lists such as SecurityFocus' BugTraq and to complement more open lists, including VulnWatch and Full-Disclosure, Secunia executives say. Company executives are upset with the direction that BugTraq has taken since Symantec Corp. acquired SecurityFocus last year The link for this article located at eweek is no longer available. . A Swedish tech firm combats anticipated suppression on online forums by introducing its own consultation service.. Censorship, Security Advisories, Mailing List, Vulnerability Reports, Open Communication. . LinuxSecurity.com Team

Calendar 2 Mar 26, 2003 User Avatar LinuxSecurity.com Team Security Projects
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Tim May's Insights on The Future of The Cypherpunks Mailing List

Over the course of the last week or so a number of news sites reported the demise of the cyperpunks mailing list. Tim May writes that he thinks it's a matter of course for the lifecycle of a mailing list, and perhaps not as noteworthy as it's being made to be... "The article is not a bad one, and actually makes some good points. Predictably, the headline is lurid and derogatory.". . .. Over the course of the last week or so a number of news sites reported the demise of the cyperpunks mailing list. Tim May writes that he thinks it's a matter of course for the lifecycle of a mailing list, and perhaps not as noteworthy as it's being made to be... "The article is not a bad one, and actually makes some good points. Predictably, the headline is lurid and derogatory." Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:19:44 -0800 Subject: Rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated From: Tim May To: cypherpunks@lne.com Sender: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 01:47 PM, measl@mfn.org wrote: > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Once the online haunt of top cryptographers, the Cypherpunks list was > > > characterized by its mix of revolutionary politics and advanced > > > mathematics. This week, a founder pronounced it dead and buried" > > > > Somebody should tell the other seven (7) nodes (on 2 continents). > > That was, of course, my point :-) > The article is not a bad one, and actually makes some good points. Predictably, the headline is lurid and derogatory. Fact is, lists and other fora have lifecycles just like anything else. The peak for the list was no doubt in the 1993-4 period, when Clipper was hot news, and when many ideas were being exposed to lots of others for the first time. By 1995, there were already schism lists forming, lists with allegedly higher-minded goals. And the original focus of the list, the deployment of various crypto protocols, began to drift into areas of copyrightissues, legal battles, and weirdnesses from Parker, Bell, Vulis, and others. Other lists also covered much of the same material, and some no doubt flocked to the "moderated" forums maintained by Lewis McCarthy (who?), Perry Metzger, Declan McCullagh, and others. Not for me. I favor not having some nanny deciding what I can post. (Eric Murray's lne.com policies I have nothing against. In fact, he implemented his list shortly after I posted an article outlining similar reasonable policies: only subscribers to one of the CDR lists have their articles go through, plus all articles through remailers. This should, and did, cut out 98% of the spam and "hit and run" posts.) As for John Gilmore, I wish him the best. But let us face reality: John was never an active poster on the list even in the 1992-94 period. Check the archives if you doubt me. No doubt he had other projects occupying this time. But let's not kid ourselves that it was "his" list. In fact, the genesis of the mailing list took place on the Sunday after the Saturday original Cypherpunks gathering. Eric Hughes, Hugh Daniel, and I were walking to a Noah's Bagel in Oakland and talking about how to keep the spirit of the previous day's meeting going. Eric or Hugh suggested a mailing list, and Hugh said he could set it up to run on some machine or another, probably the Hoptoad machine that John Gilmore owned. John gave his permission and the list started about a week or two after the first meeting. Anyway, to those who wander away because the owner of "toad.com," a site that is not even part of the regular CDR system, declares us irrelevant I have just one message: good riddance. I don't expect the list to ever have the significance it had in the glory years, but I find it a better mix of topics than most other lists. Fact is, most other lists are the private fiefdoms of their owners, whether Lewispunks (coderpunks) or Perrypunks (cryptography) or one of any number of other such lists ("Interesting People," "Politech," etc.). And several of these listsare avowedly "non-political." How absurd. What's the point of a crypto list if there's no political angle? Yeah, maybe a handful of people want to chat about pure math and programming tricks...but not a lot, judging by the very low volumes of such discussions even on the "non-political" lists. And without political issues, what's the motivation to even talk about remailers, data havens, digital cash, etc.? Fact is, a _lot_ of people on all lists, on the Net, are losing sight of "why we fight." While we don't need politics of the Democrat vs. Republican kind, or even the libertarian vs. socialist kind, without some goals about where crypto can take us there is not much left except obscure debates about Rijndael and elliptic curves and other applied number theory obscuria. One of the lifecycle aspects of all lists is boredom. Those who found the Cypherpunks ideas exciting in 1994 moved on a few years later. Some joined companies, some even formed companies. All predictable. The fact that John is now pulling the plug is one of the few surprises of recent years....I thought his site at toad had gone away several years ago! That's when he announced he was shutting it down. That he let it dribble on a dumping ground for those not smart enough to find the cyberpass.net, algebra.com, sunder.net, lne.com, or Choate's site doesn't mean his node was "the list." The more things change... So, I wish him well. I am thankful that he let Hugh Daniel host the list on one of his machines in the 1992-96 period. But rumors of the death of Cypherpunks are greatly exaggerated. --Tim May --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' . In response to assertions about the end of the cypherpunks mailing list, Tim Mayelaborates on its journey and the impact it has made over the years.. Cypherpunks Mailing List, Digital Activism, Cryptographic Discussions. . LinuxSecurity.com Team

Calendar 2 Nov 30, 2001 User Avatar LinuxSecurity.com Team Cryptography
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New Linux Crypto Mailing List for Developers and Enthusiasts

A new mailing list, dedicated to all Linux Crypto topics has just opened. It is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Thanks go to all at nl.linux.org for allowing me to host this mailing list using their majordomo, esp. to Rik van Riel.. . .. A new mailing list, dedicated to all Linux Crypto topics has just opened. It is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Thanks go to all at nl.linux.org for allowing me to host this mailing list using their majordomo, esp. to Rik van Riel. To subscribe, send an email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. with the singleline subscribe linux-crypto in the _body_ of the message. You will receive a message telling you what you need to do then. This list is intended to be a forum for all sorts of crypto topics concerning Linux. It will serve as a developers forum for the kerneli international kernel patch (), too. Since this list is new, it will be low-volume. If that volume grows, we may split the list into -devel and -users, but as for now, everyone is welcomed with open arms to join the list - be it newbie, be itdeveloper. . A new mailing list, dedicated to all Linux Crypto topics has just opened. It is This email address i. mailing, dedicated, linux, crypto, topics, opened, email, address. . LinuxSecurity.com Team

Calendar 2 Sep 27, 2000 User Avatar LinuxSecurity.com Team Cryptography
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Yahoo Auctions Removes Listings Over Privacy Violations

An executive at Yahoo Auctions said the company removed the auction listing because it violated its terms of service by offering to sell personal data, the Journal said. An EBay spokesperson said the company does not allow the sale of bulk . . . . An executive at Yahoo Auctions said the company removed the auction listing because it violated its terms of service by offering to sell personal data, the Journal said. An EBay spokesperson said the company does not allow the sale of bulk e-mail lists through its service and is sensitive to the privacy concerns of its users, the newspaper said. The link for this article located at PC World is no longer available. . Craigslist has taken down posts for breaching confidentiality regulations by distributing private information. Etsy continues to prioritize user data protection.. Yahoo Auctions, EBay, Personal Data, Privacy Issues, Data Protection. . LinuxSecurity.com Team

Calendar 2 Aug 10, 2000 User Avatar LinuxSecurity.com Team Privacy
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